Bameh Madlikin

Why do you (presumably) say bameh madlikin after shmoneh esreh of arvis rather than before borchu (I think the answer is that that was the old way, but the Chayei Odom, for some reason, changed it to after shmoneh esreh and that was accepted in E. Europe)?

Litvak

"Bameh Madlikin - This reading from the Mishnah (Shabath chapter 6) was added to the service to afford latecomers every possible opportunity to finish their prayers before the rest of the congregation would disperse, so that they might not have to walk home alone from the synagogue in the dark.(Minhagei Maharak).
Orach Chaim (270:1) recommends the Sephardic custom to recite the portion Bameh Madlikin before the beginning of the Maariv service so that those who might not have properly fulfilled any of the precepts enumerated there might be reminded of their omission while there would still be time enough to go home and correct their error before the actual beginning of the Shabbath. However, Magen Avraham ibid., defends our own custom, which is to recite this portion only after the end of the Evening Service, pointing out that the kinds of wicks and oils enumerated in Bameh Madlikin are no longer used in our own part of the world." R' Munk, The World of Prayer volume two page 15.

Daniel

Dear all
Since we are involved in this subject (for those people leaning daf Jomi)

1. Where, if any, is it said Friday Night before L’chu Nerananuh. (they still do in Copenhagen)

2. also, is there anywhere on Friday afternoon, they don’t say Oleinu in mincha before Kabolos Shabbos. (for some reason, they gave up that in Copenhagen about 25 years ago)
(I believe both were the nusach AHU)


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Michael - interesting