Nusach variants in Birchos Krias Shemaŋ
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						27 Aug 2017 11:46		 -  27 Aug 2017 18:11		#2827
		by NMuhlgay
	
	
		
			
	
			
			 		
													
	
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				I've noticed some differences in the nuschoaus in the 
	nusach page
 and R' Rallis Wiesenthal's Tefiloh Sefas Yisroel.
I will edit if I notice more but currently
Which is correct? If TS"Y is correct, why do the recordings use the wrong girso?
					I will edit if I notice more but currently
- In Tisborach Tzureinu, TS"Y presents כולם אהובים… רצון קונהם whereas the recording says קונם
 - In Ŋal hoRishaunim, TS"Y and the Madrich (5769 ed.) say אין ﭏקים עוד זולתך, whereas the recording omits עוד
 
Which is correct? If TS"Y is correct, why do the recordings use the wrong girso?
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						27 Aug 2017 18:26				#2828
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				Replied by Michael on topic Nusach variants in Birchos Krias Shemaŋ			
			
				In KAYJ we Daven Nusach Ashkenaz according to the live Minhag, omitting changes that were done as compromises after Holocaust in KAJ (as Rav Shimon Schwab Zt'l told Rav Hamburger), and omitting any changes that were presented into Davening by the Maskilim (ויי"צ etc.) or by the censor.
TSY must be following the old Minhag, even in cases that it was changed for other reasons than the ones quoted above. Rav Hamburger's shul in Bnei Brak follows this Minhag, and says as quoted above. But in KAYJ we do not change back to the old Minhag in these cases, but follow the Minhag used nowadays in Ashkenaz (Yekkish) Kehillos.
					TSY must be following the old Minhag, even in cases that it was changed for other reasons than the ones quoted above. Rav Hamburger's shul in Bnei Brak follows this Minhag, and says as quoted above. But in KAYJ we do not change back to the old Minhag in these cases, but follow the Minhag used nowadays in Ashkenaz (Yekkish) Kehillos.
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