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						23 May 2010 17:57				#1757
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				When are the tefillous and tehillim which are printed before Adoun Oulom recited?
(Shachar avakesh'cho... from R' Shlomo ben Gibriol, Ani korosicho..., Shir HaMaalous L'Dovid somachti b'omrim li..., and Yigdal)
Is there an issue of reciting a full mizmour before Bichous HaTouroh?
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							(Shachar avakesh'cho... from R' Shlomo ben Gibriol, Ani korosicho..., Shir HaMaalous L'Dovid somachti b'omrim li..., and Yigdal)
Is there an issue of reciting a full mizmour before Bichous HaTouroh?
Rallis
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						04 Jun 2010 18:06				#1761
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				The Tefillos may be said in private, and are not part of the Tefilloh Betsibbur.
Generally the Piyyutim Shachar Avakshecho, Adon Olom and Yigdal are from the Sephardic Bakashot, and the Sephardim have many other Bakashot.
Adon Olom and Yigdal were accepted in all Ashkenaz congregations (except for Worms), but Shachar Avakescho is rarly seen, and although it is printed in a Frankfurter Siddur from the year 5416, it is not seen besides that in other Ashkenaz Siddurim before the Rodelheim.
According to Minhag Ashkenaz, there is no problem of saying Psukim before Birkos Hatoroh, if they are said Derech Bakosho.
Michael FRBSH
					Generally the Piyyutim Shachar Avakshecho, Adon Olom and Yigdal are from the Sephardic Bakashot, and the Sephardim have many other Bakashot.
Adon Olom and Yigdal were accepted in all Ashkenaz congregations (except for Worms), but Shachar Avakescho is rarly seen, and although it is printed in a Frankfurter Siddur from the year 5416, it is not seen besides that in other Ashkenaz Siddurim before the Rodelheim.
According to Minhag Ashkenaz, there is no problem of saying Psukim before Birkos Hatoroh, if they are said Derech Bakosho.
Michael FRBSH
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						06 Jun 2010 02:30				#1765
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			I understand this in regard to a few pesukim, does the same rule apply to a whole mizmour of Tehillim [שיר המעלות לדוד]?Michael wrote: According to Minhag Ashkenaz, there is no problem of saying Psukim before Birkos Hatoroh, if they are said Derech Bakosho.
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						06 Jun 2010 02:34				#1767
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				Yes.
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