Retzay HaShem Elokaynu
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02 Feb 2010 01:01 #1599
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Is the text for the Brichas Retzay:
וְהָשֵׁב אֶת הָעֲבוֹדָה לִדְבִיר בֵּיתֶֽךָ וְאִשֵּׁי יִשְׂרָאֵל וּתְפִלָּתָם בְּאַהֲבָה תְקַבֵּל בְּרָצוֹן
וְהָשֵׁב הָעֲבוֹדָה לִדְבִיר בֵּיתֶֽךָ וְאִשֵּׁי יִשְׂרָאֵל וּתְפִלָּתָם מְהֵרָה בְּאַהֲבָה תְקַבֵּל בְּרָצוֹן
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וְהָשֵׁב אֶת הָעֲבוֹדָה לִדְבִיר בֵּיתֶֽךָ וְאִשֵּׁי יִשְׂרָאֵל וּתְפִלָּתָם בְּאַהֲבָה תְקַבֵּל בְּרָצוֹן
וְהָשֵׁב הָעֲבוֹדָה לִדְבִיר בֵּיתֶֽךָ וְאִשֵּׁי יִשְׂרָאֵל וּתְפִלָּתָם מְהֵרָה בְּאַהֲבָה תְקַבֵּל בְּרָצוֹן
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08 Feb 2010 03:04 #1608
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The first is minhag Worms, and the latter is minhag FFAM. In Worms they omitted the מהרה because they held that it is talking about the nishmos hatzaddikim going on the mizbe'ach lima'alah, and they did not want to daven for it to be bimheiro.
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24 Feb 2010 00:58 #1635
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Does this mean that in Frankfurt they meant that it is not talking about the Nishmos HaTzadikim? If so, then the words והשב העבודה לדביר ביתיך ואשי ישראל are to be read together, and not ואשי ישראל ותפלתם. Alternatively, in Frankfurt the latter is read and they had no difficulty wanting it to be "m'heira".
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Michael wrote: In Worms they omitted the מהרה because they held that it is talking about the nishmos hatzaddikim going on the mizbe'ach lima'alah, and they did not want to daven for it to be bimheiro.
Does this mean that in Frankfurt they meant that it is not talking about the Nishmos HaTzadikim? If so, then the words והשב העבודה לדביר ביתיך ואשי ישראל are to be read together, and not ואשי ישראל ותפלתם. Alternatively, in Frankfurt the latter is read and they had no difficulty wanting it to be "m'heira".
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